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St. Gregory the Theologian on the Nature of God

May 18, 2009
The Three Holy Hierarchs - Sts. Basil the Great, John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian

The Three Holy Hierarchs - Sts. Basil the Great, John Chrysostom and Gregory the Theologian

God always was, and always is, and always will be. Or rather, God always Is. For Was and Will be are fragments of our time, and of changeable nature, but He is Eternal Being. And this is the Name that He gives to Himself when giving the Oracle to Moses in the Mount. For in Himself He sums up and contains all Being, having neither beginning in the past nor end in the future; like some great Sea of Being, limitless and unbounded, transcending all conception of time and nature, only adumbrated by the mind, and that very dimly and scantily, not by His Essentials, but by His Environment; one image being got from one source and another from another, and combined into some sort of presentation of the truth, which escapes us before we have caught it, and takes to flight before we have conceived it, blazing forth upon our Master-part, even when that is cleansed, as the lightning flash which will not stay its course, does upon our sight.

In order as I conceive by that part of it which we can comprehend to draw us to itself (for that which is altogether incomprehensible is outside the bounds of hope, and not within the compass of endeavor), and by that part of It which we cannot comprehend to move our wonder, and as an object of wonder to become more an object of desire, and being desired to purify, and by purifying to make us like God; so that when we have thus become like Himself, God may, to use a bold expression, hold converse with us as Gods, being united to us, and that perhaps to the same extent as He already knows those who are known to Him. The Divine Nature then is boundless and hard to understand; and all that we can comprehend of Him is His boundlessness; even though one may conceive that because He is of a simple nature He is therefore either wholly incomprehensible, or perfectly comprehensible. For let us further inquire what is implied by “is of a simple nature.” For it is quite certain that this simplicity is not itself its nature, just as composition is not by itself the essence of compound beings.

And when Infinity is considered from two points of view, beginning and end (for that which is beyond these and not limited by them is Infinity), when the mind looks to the depth above, not having where to stand, and leans upon phenomena to form an idea of God, it calls the Infinite and Unapproachable which it finds there by the name of Unoriginate. And when it looks into the depths below, and at the future, it calls Him Undying and Imperishable. And when it draws a conclusion from the whole it calls Him Eternal. For Eternity is neither time nor part of time; for it cannot be measured. But what time, measured by the course of the sun, is to us, that Eternity is to the Everlasting, namely, a sort of time-like movement and interval co-extensive with their existence.

*Taken from the Speech on Theophany.

8 Comments leave one →
  1. May 20, 2009 2:47 pm

    What use have we of Aquinas, Aristotle and the rest when we have THIS?! What use of subtle categories, definitions and other such constructs that are nothing but constructs and not a honest enquiry to say the least as this was undoubtedly inspired from above? “It cannot be measured” It can only be gazed at, contemplated, lived. This is Tradition. Thanks.

  2. May 20, 2009 3:12 pm

    Yeah, St. Gregory is a bit more fitting! :)

  3. steve permalink
    May 25, 2009 2:47 pm

    I agree with Gael — everything is right here. I happen to be a Presbyterian minister, but strongly drawn to Orthodoxy; and in fact rather suspect that, in God’s time, that will be my home. One of my continual surprises is at how much is here in the Tradition, in these ancient writers … I can barely make myself pay attention to contemporary theologians and “spiritual writers” nowadays. Their work just does not reach me where I live, nor, I suspect, where *any* of us truly live … suspended in ephemera as our flesh, our everyday selves seem to be. Glad I found this site, even though I no longer remember quite how that happened :-)

  4. May 25, 2009 8:12 pm

    I am glad you find these writings to be of much use Steve. I agree with what you have to say; although there are still a rare *few* modern theologians who measure up to the Fathers of old. :)

  5. May 25, 2009 11:54 pm

    Indeed Steve. As i am but a nominal RC, I hope to “come home” to Orthodoxy one day. The organic unity of Orthodox life, as much personal as ecclesial- the evidence of the presence of Christ as her Head- is something to be longed and strived for. Orthodoxy indeed is therapeutic as the Bishop of Nafpaktos says. It is the Therapy.

  6. steve permalink
    May 26, 2009 6:58 pm

    Gael,

    The Bishop of Nafpaktos — would that be Fr. Maximos in “The Mountain of Silence” and “Gifts of the Desert”? I’d spell the author’s name, but, uh, I can’t :-/

    If they are not the same person — Fr. Maximos frequently referred to the Ecclesia as a hospital, and the spiritual practice and wisdom of the Tradition as Therapy too. And I found that very helpful in my own spiritual formation.

    Of all the things that simply astound me — as the years (now at least 10) roll by since I “discovered” Orthodoxy — easily in first place, among gazillions, is how it holds everything together. All of my 62 years — every dream that has stayed with me (night dreams), every haunting memory, every “insight” into spiritual reality … and just when I had about resigned myself to being a human ball of mixed yarns and endless loose ends … *whammo*, here’s Orthodoxy … and EVERY loose end has been tied up. (Uh, spiritual loose ends … for me, personally, lotsa lotsa loose ends LOL).

  7. May 27, 2009 6:51 am

    Steve,

    I believe Fr Maximos is the monk the Bishop of Nafpaktos goes to meet on his journey on the Holy Mountain. This is of course subject to correction. The name of the Bishop of Nafpaktos is Hierotheos Vlachos. The following link leads to excerpts from his book on Orthodox Psychotherapy: http://www.pelagia.org/htm/b02.en.orthodox_psychotherapy.00.htm

    Orthodoxy is the wholeness of the Faith. I’m actually reading Fr Cleopa Ilie’s book- The Truth of Our Faith which has answered many of my questions. Excerpts can be found on this site: http://orthodoxinfo.com/inquirers/ec_bookinfo.aspx

    In Orthodoxy, none of the intellectualism that are evident in the works of Von Balthasar(horrid this one! he said that writings of the Church Fathers are the letters the Church wrote when she was 17!!!!!!!) and the clique.

  8. steve permalink
    May 30, 2009 7:53 pm

    Thanks for the book leads — I’m *always* up for another good book! And the links, too — will follow these up as soon as possible.

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